Thursday, November 24, 2011

Thanksgiving is not bullshit! (even if we did slaughter the natives) [by anon]

I realize this is a little late but, I've had this conversation more than few times the past couple days. It goes something like this "You know Thanksgiving is a bull shit holiday. How can we celebrate the murder and pillage of all the Native Americans?" Well, Mr. Nah Sayer, its really quite easy. We view Thanksgiving as a day to visit with friends and family and to be thankful for the things we have. Yes, the Indians were here first, and we came in and took everything. What would you like me to do about that? I'm not going to say I'm sorry for an event that made our way of life possible. These events as tragic as they may be don't really effect us anymore. It is necessary to know our history, but how does any of that have any hold over how we celebrate Thanksgiving? It doesn't, if you don't like the holiday don't celebrate it. Besides it's not like we all get around table with all our food and say "Hahahaha we got the Indians good, right." No, of course not. So Debbie Downers your 2/5 of a history lesson is noted, now shut the fuck up and pass the pumpkin pie.

18 comments:

  1. i go hahahah stupid Indians lost their land cause they dont have European notions of land ownership at the table every year

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  2. Agreed.

    Prof. Chaos

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  3. As long as you are well aware that your thankfulness is possible on the raping and pillaging of the Native Americans, I guess we're good. We stole our country and I guess we can be thankful for that (?).

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  4. Thanksgiving = prideful ignorance

    There are some damn ignorant people on this blog. Get an education!

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  5. I am thankful that we stole our country. If we didn't I probably wouldn't be there. Thank you, ancestors.

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  6. it's kind of misleading to so casually suggest that "I'm thankful that Terrible Thing X happened, because I wouldn't be here otherwise! Even though Terrible Thing X is super super super terrible, you can't really blame me for being thankful for it!"

    even though it's not an invalid string of logic, I find it hard to believe that many of you would so easily apply it to other occurrences that might hit closer to home. I mean, yeah, "technically" I might be thankful if my mother was sexually assaulted, assuming that the result was me being born. but nobody's going to walk around and *say* that they're thankful about that. so there is kind of a disconnect there.

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  7. Yeah ok Anon 4:51. If our ancestors never unjustly took over this land, you wouldn't be here. And you're thankful that you are here. That's pretty selfish I think. For one, if our ancestors say, did not do what they did, who is to say you would not have been born anyway, somewhere else, and have just as much of an existence worth being thankful for? Second, if you just never were born, would you even know the difference? Absolutely not. So, you are pretty selfish in that you really put your existence up on a pedestal, so being thankful and appreciative of our ancestors having committed severe crimes a long time ago can be justified by your very existence. Are you crazy? God, I don't know what is wrong with people and them acting like their existence alone is something so valuable, they try to justify being thankful for the horrible things that were done that allow them to exist here, and they say, "I'm thankful for that". You're really just thankful for being alive in general... and NOT necessarily thankful for the shit our ancestors did, which happens to be one of like, a million causes that lead to your existence now. And I agree with you anon 7:29, of course.

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  8. What an ignorant post. Sorry you can't be inconvenienced by the truth. Ignoring it and saying "what am I supposed to do about it?" doesn't just magically make it okay, nor does the amount of time that has passed. If you really don't care then just don't say anything and go have your prideful bullshit. You clearly can't wrap your head around the criticisms anyway.

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  9. @All of you. I'm grateful it happened, selfish or not. Deal with it? Or do you need a box of tissues. Shit happens, get over it.

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  10. What utter nonsense! How was it determined that you white students (the posters) at Whitewater are the direct descendants of the English, Spanish and/or French early colonizers? Did you assume that because you are white and they were white that you must be related?

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  11. Very ignorant post. 5:04, are you English?

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  12. Orginal poster here.
    To the people throwing the word ignorant around:
    You should really get a dictionary because you are using it incorrectly. If everyone who posted something generaly understands what happened to the Indians then how can they be ignorant? Unless your just trying to insult people who are anonynous. Both of which just demonstrates how stupid you are. Allow me to unstupefy you. Anon 6:32 questions how can all the white students be direct descendnants? This is an ignorant post because it implies that two things.
    1: one must be direct descendant to be thankful for the rewards of the previous americans. Not true, if an imagrant from China comes over here, they will enjoy the rewards or "punishment" if you want to think of it in those terms, the same as everyone else.
    2: in case you didn't know the first settlers were not the only ones to fight the Indians. Lots of settler came over constantly from all over, and America was not unfied as it is today until 1959. Maybe you don't view hawaiians as Native Americans, most people don't. Still not just English, Spanish, French, (white) and who ever else came over first were not the only ones to fight Indians.
    That is how you make a point, you give reasons and logic. Not just insults. You're really just insulting yourself. The inrony is that your to stupid to relize it.

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  13. @ 6:34 - (5:04 here) -
    No I'm not not English, however I used the term "ancestors" to refer to all of the Europeans who came over here and unjustly took this land from the natives. Whether or not I am a direct descendent of those who first came over here, I still am here because of what those first Europeans did. So, it really doesn't matter anyway whether or not those are really MY ancestors or anyone else's who happens to have been born in America and yadda yadda. Regardless, the reason most of us are here is because early European settlers overpowered the natives and decided to not only inhabit this land with them, but also just straight up take it away, with a lot of lies, tricks, and criminal acts along with it.
    And Eric - to your question, "deal with it?", I say "fine". But just so you know, you sound really ignorant and even more selfish than before. You show no humility whatsoever and seem to enjoy the fact that European settlers before us screwed over an entire nation of natives, and you say we should "get over it". Sounds like you just don't want to think about it.

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  14. Greetings,
    Only an ignorant pink muthafucka would write a comment like that dumb bitch critically pissed wrote. Pink muthafuckas don't want to understand what they have done because they are the beneficiaries. Have you ever known a muthafucka to steal a country from a people and then say sorry I took your land, do you want it back. These muthafuckas don't want to deal with this issue no more more than they want to deal with the issue of slavery. There favorite slogan is "hey man that happened along time ago, I had nothing to do with it. Can't we just move on". These muthafuckan crackers are a bunch of liers. They stole this land but at the same time in their his story books they say they discovered this shit. The natives befriended these savage muthafuckas by teaching them ( pilgrims ) how to grow crops to feed their ugly ass babies and families. As soon as these devils tricked the natives out of everything they owned, they turned around and killed them all. And thats what thankstaking means.They are thanking their fake ass god for the power to destroy one of the most beautiful civilizations that the earth has ever none. The pink man has no civilization of his own because in order to have a civilization one must be civil. Every where he has gone on the face of the earth he has brought nothing but death and destruction to the people around his stank ass, while creating wealth for himself off of the very people he has destroyed. People of color need not celebrate these fictional holidays that these pale muthafuckas have used to fool us all . I could go on and on because this shit is endless and will never end. Because in order for these crackers to stay on top they must continue to lie to the masses of people so that so called white superiority can survive. The way to defeat these bastards is to stop celebration their made up holidays so they wont make billions of dollars off of the ignorance of people of color. Wake up people and stand your muthafuckan ground against these racist devils. Stop celebrating all this bullshit. Pick up your books and arm yourself with knowledge. Read about these fake muthafuckas and you will find out that they are a bunch of culture vultures. They steal everything that ain't nailed to the muthafuckan floor. Every thing the pink man represents is a lie. Read his bullshit history so that you will know. And read your own beautiful history as well. Never let your cultural way go. This is a message from Special K aka Mr. Melanin. Peace to those who seek TRUTH.

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  15. My shit probably wont be published because it is the truth.

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  16. Fuck up. Happy bullshit day.

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  17. But it's the 21st Century, no one gives a fuck about thanks giving... Or any American bullshit...

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  18. "These events as tragic as they may be don't really effect us anymore."
    I love people like you who are so willing to wear their linear mindset and uneducated stupidity on their sleeve with unparalleled gravitas.
    Makes it easy to keep you out of the gene pool.
    Bravo Critically Pissed..you do the human race proud.

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