Is anyone else offended by the Duggar family? I put them in the same category as Miracle Whip.. just offensive. Michelle and Jim Bob practiced birth control when they first married and shortly after stopped to conceive their first child. They then practiced birth control again only to stop shortly after to try and conceive another child. They lost that child to miscarriage and blamed it on the use of birth control. After this, Michelle and Jim Bob decided to allow God to determine the number of children they should have. Michelle started giving birth approximately every year and a half after this...
I'm sorry, but if every couple decided to "allow God" to determine the number of children we should have, we would have an even larger population problem than we currently have today. Her last child was miscarried and the child before that was born prematurely.. I think that's God's way of saying "Sweetie, maybe you should be done now." Michelle continues to say that she wants MORE?? Honestly, why do you need 20 kids? What is the purpose? I understand maybe back in the day people had a lot of kids so that they could work on farms, and the survival rate of children was not that high. However, now? in present day? There is absolutely no reason to have that many children. ESPECIALLY because they are all going to have a long and hopefully healthy life. Their oldest child, Josh, is now married and has two children. Lets take all of the 19 Duggar children and presume that they get married and have two children, that is 38 children. This is assuming that they only have two children each.. which is probably not going to be the case, but who knows. The youngest child, Josie, is already an aunt and can barely talk!
The thing that really pisses me off is that Discovery Networks provided the construction and furnishings for the home that they built. We honestly couldn't think of anything better to do with all that money? We wanted to give them a brand new home to house ALL of their children? This whole ideal of having numerous kids and not using any form of birth control is total against my own;however, I just feel that the whole show and promotion of it is extremely ridiculous.
With that being said, I can't wait to compete with the Duggar familly for food in the future, all 19 of them..possibly 20, should God allow them to conceive just one more time.
To me it seems borderline irresponsible to have that many kids in today's world. Humans barely know how we're going to make it another century without massive resource wars and environmental degradation. Pumping out 19 more units, especially if they are to be devout Christians (perhaps not free thinking problem solvers) just isn't a good idea right now, I feel.
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is irresponsible, so damn what? Who are you to criticize this woman? Actually, many European nations as well as the US are underpopulated. This is one of the reasons social security is in trouble, not enough of you folks to support the baby boomers. Europe is also fucked up because their are not enough births to support their life styles so they have an immigration problem. You are a student, I think, and the tax payers support your ass. Who do you think pays for the buildings on campus, the computers you use, the streets around campus,even the grants you obtain. The taxpayers of the US and Wisconsin, so stop complaining about the kids. One of them could be another Steve Job who was adopted.
DeleteAre you kidding? Are you really trying to make the argument that we are running out of social security because there isn't enough of us to support the baby boomers? If there weren't so many baby boomers, this wouldn't be a problem. This is the most ridiculous counter argument I have ever heard.There is no reason for one family to have 19 kids...
DeleteI'll criticize whoever I damn want. No one's obligated to listen to me, so if I see a problem I'll call it out, then we can have a reasoned argument about it.
DeleteYour argument is trash, and the above poster covered why. If you can't figure it out then I won't both arguing further.
Nice argument!! So why not have 100 babies, if one of them could be the next steve jobs! I can't believe how you can come to the point that that is a reasonable argument..
DeleteI'm totally with the OP here . . . by now these kids should just be able to walk out of her!! I'm fine with people practicing whatever religion they would like, but if that means I have to pay for their kids (and maybe even living expenses) for the rest of my life then I don't think so. Unless both of them make a ton of money (which although I don't watch the show I don't think they do . . . but of course TV might be paying them by now), somebody has to be paying for those kids! I'm just glad I don't live anywhere near them . . . so there is less of my possible tax dollars going to feed all their damn kids.
ReplyDeleteAnd another thing . . . women aren't meant to breed that much . . . I wonder how the husband/family will react when "God" kills their mother/wife because her body gives out??
Its not breeding! Its called giving birth. You are not paying for swat. You probably don't even have a decent job. Perhaps you are a student, then tax payers are subsidizing your education, so the pot should not call the kettle black. You sit back on your ass and criticize a woman with children while the government uses your tax dollars to murder and kill people around the world. Over three trillion dollars were wasted in Iraq, US has military bases in over 700 countries, the banks nearly fucked up the entire world with their stealing, and you sit on your ass complaining about children eating.
DeleteLast time I checked, two animals (which we are animals) having sex to produce offspring is called BREEDING . . . giving birth is the act of having offspring (in this case, a human child). Learn your terminology before you speak please.
DeleteAlso, I have a full-time job as well as a part-time job (almost 60 hours a week total). My student loans were completely paid off within a year, and all of my taxes, car payments, etc. have all been either paid off or paid on their proper billing dates.
Yes, I do agree with you that tax dollars in general do go towards less reputable activities, but that was not the point of this post. If you would like to complain about the various wars our country is involved in, please start your own post . . . straying from the main idea of this post makes you look rather uneducated.
It also seems that you didn't really understand my post above . . . I was only addressing the family in the TV show, not women in general with children. If a woman runs into trouble and legitimately needs help caring for her children while she gets "back up on her feet", I'm perfectly fine with that.
What I do have a problem with are companies and even the government (if they are even helping out) giving this family money and free articles only because of the fact that they have lots of children. If this family didn't have a TV show, there is almost no way that they would be able to pay for all of their children's expenses (especially when many of the children were younger). Because of their "TV fame", this particular family is almost getting paid to have more children. If they stopped having children, the public would lose interest in them and the show would go downhill . . . costing the TV station as well as all its endorsers money.
Being paid to have children is very close to someone paying for a show dog (or other animal) to be bred . . . there is only payment if the dog/puppies have the ability to make more money. Hence we get back to my first point . . . these people are now basically breeding for money.
Just another reason why I HATE American culture. This is the type of shit people find interesting and important. Whoopdifuckingdoo! So some lady decided to have 20 goddamn kids and some organization thought it was so wonderful this woman got rewarded with a house and shit. Well good for them. And if that woman seriously decided she would "let God decide" how many children she would have..... what a fucking NUT! I suppose when one of those kids comes down with a life threatening illness she will also, "let God decide" if her child should live. I'm SO SO SO SO SICK of God and people not making their own responsible choices and pretending as though God is really doing ANYTHING at all other than serving as their poor excuse for having an abundance of children (or doing whatever other nonsense it is they may do). When will people wake up and realize whatever the fuck they did with God can be done without God?? When will people realize God doesn't DECIDE shit!?! In reality, GOD does NOT interfere with anything going on in our world!!! GOD IS NOT LIKE THAT!! UGGHGHGHGHGHGH.. WTF people?!
ReplyDeleteShe has a right to believe in God as you have a right not to believe, so get off your soap box. There are people who do not believe in birth control or abortion. Perhaps if they did, a whack job like you would not be walking around saying how much he or she hates American culture while at the same time partaking of it. I guess you call yourself an open minded tolerant and understanding human being. Really?
DeleteI understand peoples right to either believe or not believe in birth control; however, if you choose not to use contraception then you should probably be a little bit more responsible in you sexual activities.
DeleteWhere did I say she shouldn't believe in God? There are plenty of tolerable conceptions of God, but when people like this lady use their conception of God as an excuse to have twenty children, well that is just fucking stupid and these people need to just wake up.
DeleteAnd btw, I kind of have to partake in American culture to some extent - I do live here, and have not been equipped at any point in my life to just go live in a cave somewhere and survive, which BTW I'd love to be able to do someday. And I'm pretty sure you can "not believe in birth control or abortion" without having 20 goddamn kids! It's called PULLING OUT, or using a fucking CONDOM! JESUS. And I am rather open minded, it's just that I can't stand fucking idiots who sit there and act like this woman and say, "I'll let God decide FOR me" so they just throw down the reigns of responsibility and let fucking loose. Seriously! What is wrong with people?!
5:23, you're awesome. But are there really plenty of tolerable conceptions of God? I think they all blow and this 19 kid woman is just another instance of God-people stupidity. The only conception of God that is barely tolerable is the kind where God created everything and then left us the fuck alone. God has no place here otherwise.
ReplyDeleteThen where does God belong? You seems to be saying that God belongs somewhere.
DeleteGod belongs in the toilet and flushed. I hope you're not one of those people who say that once someone mentions God or argues against God that that implies that God already exists. that's the biggest load of horseshit if that's what you're thinking. If I said that the spaghetti monster doesn't really exist, am I saying that the spaghetti monster must somehow already exist? not.
DeleteYeah 7:21, you're right... most conceptions of God do blow... but there are other conceptions like, God is Nature, God is everything, God is energy, God is some unknown force, God created the universe and now has nothing to do with it (like you said), or God is Love, or pretty much any conception OTHER than God is someone who really listens to prayers and does things for us and watches over us on Earth, who judges whether or not we will go to heaven/hell, along with all of the other personifications of God. I guess overall, God as a personified being is just a pretty harmful conception.
DeleteHow did this become an argument about religion? It seems to me that the underlying issue here is whether or not it's socially responsible for a woman to have 20 kids that she and her husband would not be able to house and support were it not for a TV network paying them to breed (and yes, that IS the proper terminology). Newsflash: it's NOT socially responsible. Pro-creation is a beautiful thing. EXCESSIVE pro-creation is not. And, on a side-note, anyone who wants to argue that the United States and European countries are "under-populated"... gosh, it's such horse-shit, I don't know where to begin arguing with it. Yes - the populations of the worlds "progressive" countries, including the United States, is declining because women have better access to birth control and are waiting until later in life to have children, thus having fewer children throughout their lifetimes. Yes, the declining population IS why our Social Security system is unstable at the moment. But how does this constitute UNDER-population? Because third world countries with little education and no access to information on birth control have populations rapidly growing while our own populations decline, are we supposed to begin breeding like the Duggars to "catch up"? The current global population is barely sustainable if we want to avoid widespread famine. Based on that fact alone, from a global perspective, any couple that has more than two children is being irresponsible and sending their offspring out into a world that simply doesn't have the resources to support them.
ReplyDeleteThe original argument is wonderful, Agreed!
ReplyDeleteIt seems to be a glorification of irresponsibility, because those offspring can be supported(by the tv show I am sure), does not mean they should. The Earth is struggling with too many humans, finite resources and so on. Just because you can, does not mean you should breed more offspring.
ReplyDelete19 and counting is full of bullshit all they want is fucking money for the show and the mother michell is a fucking goldigger,hoe,whore and a rotten peace of shit all she wants is jim bob tiny mother fucken dick and she is fake as fuck !
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ReplyDeleteScrew all of you idiots, that stupid woman is rejecting her children. They'd be lucky if she remembered any of their names.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the author. Unresponsible behavior. People should not be allowed to breed like rabbits as if there were no tomorrow. Arguments about social security and that kind of bullshit do not have a role in this discussion. The security system we have is artificial, it is made by us and can be changed if that is needed in order to adjust to a decreasing population. Earth is a limited resource we have that should not be overflooded by humans living on it in unsustainable ways. The consequences of overpopulation are already visible (pollution, scarcity of water, extinction of other species etc.) and will be more and more difficult to address if we grow to 10 or 20 billion people. This is the typical elephant in the room!
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