tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post8537793643687724773..comments2023-06-03T07:31:58.418-05:00Comments on The Critically Pissed: Is tenure worth it? (by anon)Critically Pissedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08616961824286610531noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post-16863069663104071002011-09-07T02:41:11.157-05:002011-09-07T02:41:11.157-05:00There are the rare few professors that are older a...There are the rare few professors that are older and still excellent researchers and teachers. These few have served as my role models and inspired me to believe that the system can be made better.Free Slots Webhttp://www.freeslotsweb.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post-60728039521860687022011-09-05T01:54:30.923-05:002011-09-05T01:54:30.923-05:00According to Gillespie, class instruction should n...According to Gillespie, class instruction should not be different in most cases between an instructor and a professor.Frankhttp://mesotheliomaandasbestosresources.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post-62962423058368033892011-09-04T08:53:21.401-05:002011-09-04T08:53:21.401-05:00There are bad professors on every campus, as there...There are bad professors on every campus, as there are bad cops, bad presidents, bad judges, bad lawyers, bad parents, and bad students, yet we manage to survive. There are 600 or so faculty, so a few bad apples will not tip over the apple cart. Do a few bad students bring down the school? The answer is no!<br /><br /> If you really believed bad profs are a serious issue here, then you should transfer to another school. If you do, you will discover the same exact situation there.<br /><br />Regarding administrators with tenure, I said it is extremely difficult to recruit high quality administrators without tenure. These jobs are simply too political. The assumption that administrators make bad teachers is false. Are you aware that they teach classes here. You may have already taken a class taught by an administrator.<br /><br />My final point, Brett Favre ended his career badly. He bombed in his final season and received tons of negative criticism. He went out as a loser, but as time passes, he will be considered as one of the greatest players to have ever played the game because when we evaluate Favre we will look at his total body of work. He is a Hall of Famer! Yet, we do not do the same for faculty members. In one or two semesters of bad teaching, we classify them as dead weight and pull out the guillotine. In our rush to judgement, we do not take into consideration their life circumstances or the body of their work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post-21230150107456511572011-09-03T20:21:30.160-05:002011-09-03T20:21:30.160-05:00What do you do about all that dead weight then? N...What do you do about all that dead weight then? Nothing? Let them bring down our school?<br /><br />You say that tenure is good because administrators can fall back on it. But my guess is that they would make sucky teachers being that they are are pushed back as teachers. They would most likely harbor resentment and ill will towards the school. So I'd say that tenure is not good for the school when it comes to administrators in the capacity you are talking about.<br /><br />Also, I didn't say that everyone would then become academic staff. There are certainly ways to set up contract systems with different expectations matched with differential salaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8832236349540926420.post-77301612671403272482011-09-02T07:09:20.283-05:002011-09-02T07:09:20.283-05:00We are better with the tenure system than without ...We are better with the tenure system than without for the reasons you list but for other reasons as well. Shared governance, program and curriculum development would be meaningless without the tenure system. <br /><br />Do you really think faculty members would be connected to the institution without tenure. They do a lot of unpaid work because they are connected to the institution. <br /><br />Tenure is not just for the faculty, administrators use it too. Do you believe that any person would take the position of chancellor, vice president, or dean without being tenured in an academic department. How can you expect a dean or provost, to function effectively without tenure? <br /><br />Biddy Martin, former chancellor at Madison, was pushed out because of politics. While she was able to get another gig, she was tenured and could have moved into a teaching slot. Thus, there are many sides to this tenure issue. <br /><br />Finally, we already have a contract system. Check out the status of academic staff. They teach more classes and receive less pay at all system campuses. They teach their classes and go home. So would you like to have an entire campus composed of academic staff? We increased their teaching loads to overcome our budgetary shortfall because they are on contingent one year contracts and they are not tenured. <br /><br />Without tenured faculty we would lose our accreditation from the Higher Learning Commission, NCATE, and AASCSB, major accreditation agencies for the campus as a whole, education, and business. They require institutions to have a set percentage of tenured faculty. Without external accreditation your degree would be worthless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com